certainly in those environments, we have to act differently. we've let certain things slide the cyber threat from china and nuclear threat from iran that i think deep cover small nimble, elite covert operatives could do a really good job of collecting intelligence. we need to get back to that. michael: it does make sense. you know better than everybody that you can change while still employing some of the important parts of the past. one of the members of the committee that warned the president about the distractions in the intelligence committee former senator david born is on that committee. he said: michael: it sounds like he agree with the senator. >> i do agree with him. you know, the c.i.a. was slow to change after the end of the cold war and then we were caught flat-footed and september 11 occurred, the biggest intelligence failure of our lifetimes. i think the reason that the c.i.a. is so slow to change, and can be so short-sighted is because it's a huge bureaucracy and we keep adding layers when i think we should be scaling back on it.